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| Shechaiyah |
Who's Going to BE HERE if there's TROUBLE???What it appears to me is -- due to the fact that the Continuity of Government Program has built huge underground enclaves -- isour leaders are deserting us, here on the surface, to whatever happens. We have NO leadership anymore. There is nobody responsible and nobody accountable. They're ALL LEAVING, the Elites. :shrug: Background 2007 TU24 was discovered by the Catalina Sky Survey (Arizona) on October 11, 2007. This object's 1.4-lunar-distance approach on Jan. 29 is the closest for any known Potentially Hazardous Asteroid until 2027. Apart from its absolute visual magnitude (H = 20.1, implying a diameter ~0.3 km if it has a typical S-class albedo), nothing is known about TU24's physical properties, but the expected echo signal-to-noise ratios (SNRs) almost certainly will suffice for high-resolution imaging using Arecibo or Goldstone. Goldstone observations are scheduled on January 23 and Arecibo observations are scheduled on January 27-28 and February 1-4. Note that Goldstone observations straddle the January 23-24 date boundary. This object will brighten to about 11th magnitude in late January when it will be a target for photometric and spectroscopic observations. Orbital and Physical Characteristics orbit type Apollo semimajor axis 2.010 AU eccentricity 0.529 inclination 5.8° perihelion distance 0.947 AU aphelion distance 3.073 AU absolute magnitude (H) 20.1 diameter 300 meters +- a factor of two rotation period unknown pole direction unknown lightcurve amplitude unknown spectral class unknown We would like to thank the following stations, which have provided astrometry since we announced our intentions to schedule radar observations of this object: 204 Schiaparelli Observatory Italy 432 Boambee Australia 448 Desert Moon Observatory New Mexico, USA E12 Siding Spring Australia I77 CEAMIG-REA Observatory Brazil -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2007 TU24 INTERVAL OF CLOSE APPROACH PREDICTIBILITY These lists of planetary encounters <0.1 AU terminate at the last Earth encounter prior to the linearized 3-standard-deviation (3 sigma) time of close approach uncertainty (TCA3Sg) exceeding +/- 10 days. The nominal distance is the highest probability approach distance of the reference trajectory to the given body. Minimum and Maximum are the 3-sigma distances from the body at the nominal encounter time. Vrel is the nominal relative velocity. Integrations were performed using the DE403 planetary ephemeris and include relativistic perturbations due to the Sun, planets, and Moon, and asteroids Ceres, Pallas, and Vesta. Calendar dates after 1582-Oct-15 are reported in the Gregorian Calendar. Prior to that, dates are reported in Julian Calendar. "CA dist" is the highest probability approach distance of the reference trajectory to the given body. The limits of predictability for objects having multiple planetary encounters over centuries will normally be affected by additional factors such as radiation pressure, Yarkovsky acceleration, planetary mass uncertainties, and asteroid perturbations. These factors are not included here, since the relevant physical models are imprecisely defined and key parameters are unmeasured. --------------------------------------------------- From Jon Giorgini, 2008 Jan. 18: The 2007 TU24 sol #17 interval is now 1890 - 2008. This is largely due to there not being other close approaches for the next few decades after this very close approach in 2008 (0.0037 AU) and then a somewhat close one in 2046 (0.019 AU). Date (CT) Body CA Dist MinDist MaxDist Vrel TCA3Sg Nsigs P_i/p ----------------- ----- ------- ------- ------- ------ ------ ------ ------- 1750 Nov 27.50180 Earth .089278 .081438 .136523 9.368 23142. 25317. .000000 .... 1890 Dec 04.01632 Earth .084277 .079805 .089713 9.040 3754.7 22823. .000000 1911 Jan 03.56964 Earth .054638 .045672 .064380 8.072 10714. 11733. .000000 1930 Dec 06.90665 Earth .080687 .075038 .092864 8.939 10151. 23371. .000000 1960 Jan 24.70670 Vesta .054213 .019047 .090536 12.291 1567.5 1515.9 .000000 1999 Dec 30.34491 Vesta .083841 .074741 .092945 12.613 471.02 931.17 .000000 2008 Jan 29.35570 Earth .003704 .003702 .003706 9.248 7.52 7626.1 .000000 .... 2029 Jan 07.16022 Vesta .088738 .068060 .109525 11.258 390.99 1924.1 .000000 2046 Jan 18.30808 Earth .019217 .004 |
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| Anon |
It's going to come within 0.003705 AU of us.
which by the way is 344401 miles away which by the way is 3 times the Earth's diameter which by the way is 105501 miles away from the moon If you're going to worry about it hitting us, why do you not care that it's coming closer to the moon? ...In fact, why are you worrying about it at all? o_0 |
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| Shechaiyah |
Apparently you don't know enough about astronomy to understand how the magnetosphere (starting a million miles out) of the earth can interact with the plasma surrounding a metallic projectile the size of Sears Tower.
You're just debunking. Wrong facts you bring here. Irrelevancies. Chai |
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| Draconis |
Actually, my understanding is that if the moon even moves a fraction of a centimeter off its regular orbit, the consequences here on earth are dire. I'm talking day after tomorrow type stuff. | ||||
| Shechaiyah |
I hear all the leaders are in Switzerland presently, for a conference.
Anybody know anything about that? Chai |
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| SATIRE-CHAN |
I love you. Anyone who doesn't blindly follow you is a cold-hearted debunker with bad facts and a government paycheck. Regardless that sort of thing happens all the time, Earth will be alright. |
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| Shechaiyah |
I realize, you would like earth to be aright.
But that's not enough in the grown up internet world. You have to search, cite and document and keep your images and copyrights straight. Some of us have been here doing this for a long time; and when we run into somebody who's glossing over, waving off and wishing for agreement (without facts to substantiate one's wishes), it just doesn't get taken seriously. You don't take me seriously; I don't take you seriously. This conversation has nowhere to go until some SALIENT facts show up about the magnetosphere and the plasma cover on this asteroid. : ) Emily |
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| SATIRE-CHAN |
You know facts can be fake and documents can be forged. Prove to me why your 'facts' are trustworthy. | ||||
| Shechaiyah |
That's not my job. I'm not here to convince you of anything.
Go research the matter yourself. I know what I know and that's my work :: what I know. Your work is what you know. : ) Emily |
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| SATIRE-CHAN |
So you'll keep your knowledge to yourself and leave me to find these rare and magical trustworthy conspiracy sources? I'll get right on that after I find the holy grail.
But pretty much you're all talk until it comes to proving yourself right, where it is magically no longer your problem. |
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| Shechaiyah |
It never was my problem.
It never IS anybody's problem, to convince anybody else of anything. Each of us believes what we choose to believe. And getting argumentative about it, changes nothing. Right now, I'm preoccupied with and disturbed over the fact my commercial web-site has been hacked and vandalized. So I'm not taking you on, as a problem, okay? : ) Emily |
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| SATIRE-CHAN |
Right, right. So you can say I do no research and call me a child and accuse me of using no facts, and when I ask for some of your magic information you no longer care about the subject. | ||||
| Draconis |
She's giving you a website to visit to get the theories, facts and references yourself. | ||||
| SATIRE-CHAN |
Where? Also it would greatly help if I wasn't left to grope in the dark, and she linked me to relevant articles instead of taking the "LOL I DONT CARE ANYMORE" route.
Don't blindly support her either just because you dislike me. Open your eyes and take a good look at this. |
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| Draconis |
You surprise me with your rational appeal, SATIRE-CHAN. Ok, I'll throw the ball back into Chaiya's court. | ||||
| Shechaiyah |
Well, Guys, my site is empty except for icons and avatars.
The front page is in the process of being redesigned. All the truly critical resources are lining up once more. Every time I get hacked and plundered, I have to do it over, better. Chai |
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| Draconis |
Sorry you're still having problems with hackers, Chai. 
I didn't realize your website was hacked again. |
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| Shechaiyah |
THis time they took everything of value, rerouted every video link and deleted most of my valuable info.
I'm starting over from scratch, had the server guy delete it all. It's not fun this time, or maybe it's the tension in the air. I would like to take a vacation about now. You? : ) Chai |
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| Draconis |
I'm flooded with homework assignments. The work they give is unreasonable. a total of 300+ pages to be read in one day and that's not including the homework assignments due tomorrow including class participation.
Anyway, I'm not one to talk, but how about keeping a harddrive and CD backup of your work? That way, if it gets deleted again, you have an archive. |
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| Shechaiyah |
Ive got everything, just NOT on the server.
In fact, I've got 50% MORE THAN everything. I've got, I believe 16 gigs of data, only 2.5 of which were on the server. Nothing is truly lost. Sigh. But since somebody changed the links, nothing works correctly. Ergo, it has to all come down. It'll be okay, when I get it finished. You'll be the first to see it when it's done. : ) Em |
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| Anon |
Excuse me, the "wrong facts" I quoted are straight from Harvard's website, which operates the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, which is part of the International Astronomical Union. http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/lists/PHACloseApp.html Where, pray tell, are you getting YOUR information about how magnetic waves affect us? We experience magnetic waves ALL THE TIME, known as solar winds. Every sunspot throws huge amounts of UV waves our way, and we're just fucking fine. Don't get all high and mighty, trying to be condescending, if you have NO idea what you're talking about. Please, do tell: what will happen if something gets in the way of our magnetosphere? Also, where are YOU getting your information about such HUGE catastrophes? |
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| SATIRE-CHAN |
Dude are you stupid? Obviously the martians are telling her.
But seriously you are awesome. |
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| Anon |
For once I actually agree with you Satire-Chan 
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| Shechaiyah |
Strut, strut, strut.
We'll know when it gets here, what it means. Chai |
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| Anon |
It already "got here" at 8:33am GMT, almost 24 hours ago.
Did you spend your day in a bomb shelter? I sure as hell didn't. |
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| Shechaiyah |
Naw, I've got the flu.
I sleep for a while, come do some work for a while, fix something to drink that's ennervating, and then go back to sleep. My muscles ache, my bloodpressure is high and I can't focus on anything. Zzzzzzzz I'm no fun at all today. : ( Chai |
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| Anon |
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| Shechaiyah |
I didn't say that.
Why do you lie about what I said? That's ugly. Chai |
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| SATIRE-CHAN |
You idiot, he's mocking you.
And hey, last night I didn't see the government running off into any escape tunnels either. How often does this happen to you? And who TOTALLY CALLED IT WITHOUT EVEN READING ANY OF THE 'FACTS'? If something like this was actually going to happen, they would tell us because while they do want to keep themselves safe, they don't want ALL of humanity wasted because of it. They would at the very least do the courtesy of telling us, even if they didn't protect us. But regardless, haha ha hahaha. edit: wait wait wait, you didn't bother to save your own life because you had a cold? |
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| Anon |
So is spreading rumors about the end of the world based on factless jargon and conspiracist paranoia. |
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| Shechaiyah |
Karma says, we've got it coming.
It's just a matter of time until Repression, Oppression and Suppression get smashed to smithereens. And our leadership senses that; they're so afraid, they've built underground enclaves at the cost of TRILLIONS. So, don't tell ME, I'm the one paranoid. I'm just noticing who's conducting the band. Chai |
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| Anon |
and you're STILL going!
Would you care to share proof of these enclaves or would you like to just keep digging your own damn hole? |
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| Shechaiyah |
Not for you.
I don't like your manners. : ) Em |
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| SATIRE-CHAN |
1.If karma said we had it coming it would have been here by now. 2. You're just stringing together vaguely related hot-phrases to try and sound political now. 3. No they haven't. 4. You should get some glasses because what you see if not what the rest of the orchestra sees. In fact, you are the intellectual equivalent of a guy with two sticks and a large rock in Carnegie Hall yelling that the Conductor is conducting too fast on purpose.
oh hi I fixed a typo for you |
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| Shechaiyah |
Naw, you're just agitating.
I'm busy eating my chicken soup so I feel better. See ya. |
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| SATIRE-CHAN |
You should get your keyboard looked at. |
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| Shechaiyah |
Do what you want.
Play in your sandbox. Bye |
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| SATIRE-CHAN |
What sandbox? There is no sandbox. That is a bad metaphor. | ||||
| Shechaiyah |
"Bad, bad, bad ..."
Is this the only verbal modifier you KNOW? Everything coming out of you is a judgment that something or someone is bad. It gets tiresome. :shrug: |
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| SATIRE-CHAN |
Well I would say things here are good, but they aren't.
However I do also know bad, shitty, crappy, terrible, horrible, depressing, disgusting, inadequate, untrue, etc. Want more? |
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| Shechaiyah |
So, are you the victim, or are you the abuser?
Chai |
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| SATIRE-CHAN |
I guess I'd have to be the abuser in this situation. Never claimed to be a victim. | ||||
| Shechaiyah |
I made the decision, I don't need to respond to abusers and their abuse.
: ) Em |
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| SATIRE-CHAN |
You could hardly call what you were doing before responding. | ||||
| Draconis |
Oh dear god, it's like being back in highschool... | ||||
| Anon |
lol
The troll has been trolled dis is fun :3 |
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| Shechaiyah |
Yeah.
He never quits, does he? :shrug: |
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| SATIRE-CHAN |
Wow you sure are observant. Nothing gets past you. | ||||
| Shechaiyah |
I used to deal with a guy like this at NYTIMES Abuzz, from 2001 to 2004.
Just simply, impossible. So, I learned to "let it wash" over me. You know, he can just rant and rave til the cows come home, and I really don't need to worry too much about it. The guy at Abuzz was "bruced," and he was a friend or doppelganger-type for GHWBush the Senior, who used to like to hang out there and spout his ego-news. He later moved on to Crows briefly in 2005, until Mak ran him off. They were a pair, on-line. I have never run into anybody quite so toxic since. :shrug: Chai |
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| SATIRE-CHAN |
Hey, don't let your feelings get hurt.
Just because you have crazy beliefs about the government based off of a video from a nutjob whose main sources are 'secret' books and that the majority of normal intelligent people would go out of their way to prove you wrong, as I have done, doesn't mean you should let it get to you. You should keep rushing blindly forward and go get those Nazis running the country. Because everyone knows that if you run head-first into a brick wall enough times, the wall will fall. |
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| Shechaiyah |
It's just tempting just to start calling him names.
Drac, can you stuff something in this guy's mouth, please? Where's the stretchy packing tape? Em |
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| SATIRE-CHAN |
Go on, let loose. I want to see what you can come up with. I've already heard spammer, slammer, and debunker. Let's see if you know more than just clichéd hot phrases.
That or you could start making/using some sense. Just maybe. |
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| Shechaiyah |
Nobody could ever accuse me of using common sense.
Come on. I'm a conspiracy-web-site webmaster. If I don't have a sense of humor, nobody even bothers. Chai |
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